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The New York Times has a new podcast called Sugar Calling, featuring best-selling author Cheryl Strayed. Strayed, also known as Sugar, says writing taught her how to give advice. In this moment of uncertainty, she’s setting aside advice-giving in favor of wisdom-seeking, and she’s turning to some of the most prolific writers of our time – all over the age of 60 – who’ve long inspired her for courage and insight. The first episode of Sugar Calling features a conversation with author George Saunders.